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Ferdinand von Mueller to William Branwhite Clarke, 1876-12-25. R.W. Home, Thomas A. Darragh, A.M. Lucas, Sara Maroske, D.M. Sinkora, J.H. Voigt and Monika Wells (eds), Correspondence of Ferdinand von Mueller, <https://vmcp.rbg.vic.gov.au/id//letters/1870-9/1876/76-12-25-final.odt>, accessed June 13, 2026
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The transcription given in Moyal (2003), pp. 1155-6, differs from that given here.
25/12/76.
Private
Let me thank you for your friendly letter,
rev. and enlightened friend, and for the sending of the learned essays, among which
the splendid array of facts, explained in that "on the effects of forests on climate"
particularly interested me.
I have to thank you for the generous manner, in which you alluded to myself in your
writing; this is a great support to me, while my once celebrated Department remains
almost annihilated, and while almost all my preaching on the importance of forests
culture and forest-conservancy was to deaf ears here. It is a sad spectacle in your
colony to see even a Legislator publicly write against the conservation and maintenance
of woods; and this seemingly one, who lost most of his heards
in treeless runs, and who barely escaped with his life in a subsequent flood.
It matters little, my venerable friend, whether Mr Salis gives to a downtrodden man
an other stab in his ruin. As I find now late in life, that I followed a
wrong plan of life
, it is immaterial how much I am persecuted. But apart of myself, I cannot see why
Mr S. takes the "German Professors" to task merely. Have not French, Scandinavian
and American writers said as much as my countrymen have on the forest question and
in the same train not to speak of your own English Mr Marsh?
England with its coals, its combustible turf, has less felt the want of forests,
as moreover its insular position in the cold-temperate zone keeps its climate moist,
and as it
numerous harbours allow ready import of timber,
so long as that
import
may last
& be possible.
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Letter not found.
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W. B. Clarke (1876). The article is followed by a discussion, pp. 229-35, that extended
into the next meeting on 6 December 1876, during which reference was made to some
newspaper comments following the reading of the paper; see notes below. An offprint
of Clarke's article, inscribed 'With the Author's regards', is at the Royal Botanic
Gardens Melbourne.
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herds?
5
Clarke read his paper before the Royal Society of NSW on 1 November 1876. It was initially
published in the Sydney morning herald on the following Saturday, 4 November. On 8 November an editorial in the same paper
declared: 'The Rev. W.B. Clarke has done well once more to call attention to this
subject, as Baron von Mueller has done in Melbourne. We wish that the Government and
the public would give it the consideration which it deserves.'
On 13 November the Sydney morning herald published a letter from L. Fane de Salis, MLC, defending the widespread ring-barking
of eucalypts by graziers — 'an improvement known by us to give value to worthless
scrub land'. Clarke's reply was published on 14 November, followed by another editorial
on 16 November and a further letter from de Salis on 20 November that included
I thought, and think still that the rev. and really scientific gentleman had paid
too much attention to the enthusiasm of a pedant, who proposes to cover with herbage
the Sahara, and such other parts of the earth, as rain (under the present configuration
of land) cannot possibly reach—in other words—an enthusiast who proposes to create
water.
Fane de Salis went on to refer to Clarke's 'doubtful commercial figures, as well as
those figures by which he may prove to us, on the authority of Baron von Mueller,
that man can
create
water'.
A further, long letter from Fane de Salis was published in the Sydney morning herald on 15 December, vigorously criticizing Clarke and also 'German professors' who 'adept
enough in their own speciality, are somewhat given to "inconclusive" theories on other
topics':
Humbly and blindly acknowledging God's wisdom, we yet know that, at a late period
of the creation, he placed man here as a conquering fighting animal. German professors
might even quote Scripture to the effect that conquering man ought to extirpate other
races of men that differ from him in language or in ideas — I won't. But I know that
it is man's instinctive right and function to extirpate all interfering insects, beasts,
trees, vegetables, fungi — everything opposed to man's progress — and that, acting
in direct accordance with this truth — however German professors may slander the present
climate of these countries — our forefathers in England, Ireland, Scotland, France,
Germany, Belgium, Holland did right in cutting down the forests — AND HISTORY PROVES
MY ASSERTION.
The issue of 18 December carried a brief note from Clarke, declining to reply to de
Salis's 'extraordinary' communication: 'its style of argumentation and its tone render
that impossible'.
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Clarke in his essay refers to George P. Marsh (1864) Man and nature, or physical geography as modified by human action. However, Marsh was American, not English.
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its?
Even in the Gilbert-Group,
from whence I have just received through the Rev. Mr Whitmee the very few plants
existing there, even on these minute specks of corals in the wide ocean the rain falls
often not for very many month, because besides some Coconuts hardly any trees exist
there.
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Gilbert Islands, Pacific Ocean.
As for the value of timber after ringing, it must be considered, that our hard woods
yield not well to the saw when indurated after a protracted period; hence such wood
cut after years can only be used for fuel, and that inferior to fresher woods; but
how much waste all this involves on public lands. Surely everyone knows, that trees
bring up from lower strata the
mineral
elements of nutrition particularly the phosphates of lime & potash. See, how the
foliage of European forests is sought for manure! There are many grasses, which will
live under trees, many mentioned in my new edition of the "industrial plants".
The naturalisation of such grasses and (herbs) should be encouraged.
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B76.12.04.
Possibly your rivers may contain as much water as before, though the Cedarbrushes
are cut down; but where are the incomparable Red Cedars to come from for your nepotes?
Besides there is a vast difference between water merely running down rivers & there
being lost, between water soaking gradually down slopes, sending out vapor on the
way,
renewing
rains
; surely it must be apparent to anyone's understanding, that even if the Rivers are
still as high, that the fall of rain must have diminished, as in the forest regions
formerly only a small
portion
of the water run down at all to the brooks & streams. If those, who remove the trees,
did really sow Luzern, Sanfoin,
dense
nutritious perennial grasses
, then the diminished rain might still be retained, but to my mind there is an enormous
difference between foliage surface of evergreen trees and the grasses, parched from
Christmas til Easter, when we wish most to prevent the heating of the soil & the escape
of water.
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Sainfoin?
I admire the youthful freshness of your mind. May providence leave that blessing to
you for many years to come yet in best bodily health.
With best salutation to the new year.
Ferd. von Mueller
Cereals would give
some
compensation for forest trees, but the stubble is a poor concern after harvest also,
so far as climate is concerned in hot & dry countries. Perhaps you have occasion to
promulgate in some of your ingenious writings these views of mine. Every tree, however
miserable helps to shade & cool a certain space of ground.
The two main-principles, which I have all along laid down for Australian forest-culture
at the
present
time are
1, local forest boards,
2, Revoting of the revenue derived from forests for the maintenance and augmentation
of the woods.
It would be unreasonable to blame so excellent a friend as yourself for any hostile
remarks of Mr Salis, especially as you so well defended me