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RBG Kew, Miscellaneous reports 6.5, New Guinea, Fiji and Pacific Islands 1850-1928, ff. 23-4; RBG Kew, Kew correspondence, Australia, Mueller, 1882-90, ff. 228-9. 87.09.16Preferred Citation:
Ferdinand von Mueller to William Thiselton-Dyer, 1887-09-16. R.W. Home, Thomas A. Darragh, A.M. Lucas, Sara Maroske, D.M. Sinkora, J.H. Voigt and Monika Wells (eds), Correspondence of Ferdinand von Mueller, <https://vmcp.rbg.vic.gov.au/id/87-09-16>, accessed September 11, 2025
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The letter as transcribed here comprises two parts, filed in different series at Kew.
The internal evidence that suggests that the two parts belong to the one letter is
given below, at the end of the first part of the letter.
In answer to your very considerate last letter,
dear Mr Dyer, let me say, that I had
not
the
slightest knowledge
of Mr Forbes's arrangements, concerning the mode [of]
distribution of his plants in Europe,
nor
did I exercise
any
influence
either directly or indirectly on the distribution. The Rev W. G. Lawes of Port Moresby
Mission Station acted kindly as Agent for the R.G.S. of Austr, and through his influence,
the second best set (therefore not a complete series) came to Melbourne,
which set must be
subdivided
between the bot. institutions of the three colonies, from which the votes were obtained,
out of which [o]n [r]ig[ht]
proportion £500 were given to Mr Forbes, this second set of bot specimens being the
only return, as we did not even get a sketch-map or any extracts from diaries. Now,
my generous friend, you must consider the
wide difference
for collecting fund from
private institutions
and obtaining fund from the
public exchequer through Parliament
In the one case, there is no responsibility, in the other the greatest possible
responsibility
, and here under the vigilance of a very exacting press! Englishmen in Australia,
and I consider myself one of them since my 40 years naturalisation, are not unreasonable;
all we wanted here, feeling our responsibility to the local Parliament, and the equally
watchful local journals, that we should
fairly share
in the proceeds of F’s Expedition. That the arrangements with him could not renewed,
was because he wanted
£2000 for one season
for the lowlands or uplands; the High Commissioner had promised a subsidy for the
lowlands track across the peninsula, while
we
here wanted highlands exploration, and we
had simply not
£2000
.
I will do
all I can
also as regards New Guinea supplies for the great Kew Department, but give me a little more time, as the Field Naturalists
here press me for the “Key to the Syst of Vict. Plants”
for use still this spring, and altho’ the printing
has
commenced, the work cannot appear for some weeks yet. When Cuthbertson's and Sayer's
plants arrive, I will methodically go through the whole Papuan Collections, and make
up as good a set for you as I can.
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Letter not found.
3
editorial addition
— MS damaged.
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See W. Lawes to A. Macdonald, 7 May 1886 (A36, Royal Geographical Society of Australasia
(Vic. Branch) papers, Mitchell Library, State Library of New South Wales, Sydney),
quoted in n. 3 to H. Forbes to M, 4 May 1886.
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editorial addition
— MS damaged.
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The volume includes a number of press cuttings from Australian papers that report the formation of the expedition, and a number of letters from officers of the
Royal Geographical Society and the British Association for the Advancement of Science
concerning their support for and later dissatisfaction with Henry Forbes. There are also letters from Forbes to Thiselton-Dyer.
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B88.11.02.
Our new expedition will give us the plants of the third and 4th zone, but not yet
that of the fifth, which we must try to grasp next year, and the elucidation of all
this shall be my swan song!
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The letter filed in Miscellaneous reports 6.5 ends here without valediction. The remainder
of the letter as transcribed is filed in Kew correspondence, Australia, Mueller, 1882-90.
The two sections are united on the basis that the date '16/9/87' has been added by Thiselton-Dyer at the top of f. 228 which begins without salutation
but contains a valediction, and, importantly, M's return to discussion of Forbes at
the end of the letter. However the paper of the two parts is different, the first
is on unruled and the second on lined paper.
Kindly tell Sir Joseph, that we push antarctic exploration, because we wish to increase
the
revenue
, trade and manufactures of these colonies, and see the now greatly unsuccessful whaling
in the north through steamers carried to the promising fields of the S. It was on
my
proposition that an antarct. Committee was here formed, and as mover of the resolution,
I could have claimed the Presidency, but on my own free impulse I moved a celebrated
Naval Surveyor into the chair, our senior naval Officer,
an accomplished Astronomer and a religious man, whose father as flag-Lieut. of Nelson
at Trafalgar hoisted the celebrated and ever memorable signal, and whose son is one
of the most brillant of navigating Lieutenants in the Royal Navy. The idea however
of using in nightless time and calm weather Balloons for reconnoitering at various
longitudes for triangulation beyond the ice-barrier arose with me. Only yesterday
I urged on the Premier of N.S. Wales with my Colleagues a subsidy, which Sir Henry
Parkes kindly promised. So we hope to see Sir Allen Young here out yet this season.
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Crawford Pasco.
Of course, you will have read what I said in my two annual Presidential Discourses.
The suggestion of Mr Goeschen being asked for some help was also emanating from me,
his firm, Frühling & Goeschen then, transacted for me transits to the Continent in
the 40-
and -50 years of this century. We want thus to get profitable engagements also for
the Scotish Whalers. Returning once more to the Forbes-affair, I must say in justice
to my Colleagues, that no incivility was shown him, though some sternness in our administrating
public fund. He has no reason to be so severe upon these colonies, particularly while he
is an Officer of the High Commissioner, and thus solely sustained by the three colonies,
which hitherto found the fund for the administration of British New Guinea.
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B85.13.25, B87.05.03.
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18
deleted before
the 40-.
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Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland.
With all good wishes for all at Kew your
Ferd von Mueller.
Should you meet the most generous of all the generous, Sir H. Barkly, will you kindly
explain about the antarctics and about Forbes. I find, that I shall have no time for
a long letter to him, til the Key
is out, for the Cherry trees &c are now here in full flower already.
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B88.13.03.
I am to be at private luncheon at the Viceregal palace
tomorow, when antarctic[s] and New Guinea will also be the topic.
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i.e. Government House, Melbourne.
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Paragraph written in the margin, f. 228 front.
I have written within the last few days written
as a byework over hundred various letters with my own hand to leading colonist, so
that Giles may finish off geographically Central Austr. within our first century.
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written
repeated.
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Paragraph written in both margins of f. 229 back. For an example of a response to M's appeal to fund an expedition led by Ernest Giles, see F. Sargood to M, 19 September 1887.