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Charles Winnecke to Ferdinand von Mueller, 1884-01-02. R.W. Home, Thomas A. Darragh, A.M. Lucas, Sara Maroske, D.M. Sinkora, J.H. Voigt and Monika Wells (eds), Correspondence of Ferdinand von Mueller, <https://vmcp.rbg.vic.gov.au/id/84-01-02>, accessed September 11, 2025
1
Letter no. 00166 in the archive. A German translation of most of this letter was published
in Petermann's geographische Mitteilungen, vol. 30 (1884), p. 153.
Pirie Street Adelaide
2nd January 1883
2
Winnecke clearly intended 1884, since he returned from the expedition that he discusses
in the letter in December 1883.
The Baron Sir Ferdinand von Mueller. K.C.M.G &c
Melbourne
Dear Sir
I must apologize for not writing to you sooner the fact is I have not been very well
since my return. I wrote to you once from the Mueller (Diamantina) River
in Queensland, but I presume you did not receive my letter as many others which I
wrote at the same time have not as yet turned up; I have had a rather hard trip; scarcity
of water compelled me to push my work on as fast as possible, and during the six months
I have been absent I have not had a single days rest; I have made a small collection
of plants not a hundredth part of what I should like to have collected, but I hope
you will find them worth recording. I delayed sending them to you before, as I wished
to enclose a sketch plan, so that you could ascertain, the indegenous locality of
the different plants. I have however been delayed in making this plan, by circumstances
over which I had no control; Mrs Tietkens, who is just about to visit Melbourne has
kindly consented to take the plants and deliver them to you, I hope you will receive
them in good order, I have placed a small slip of paper with a number on each lot,
and I shall forward you a copy of my Journal and plan as soon as the latter are Lithographed
with corresponding number so that you will be able to localize all the different plants;
the season was very dry and few plants in a sufficiently forward state for classification
could be obtained, the country I travelled over consisted of very high sandhills from
300 to 400 feet high, soon after starting I had a stage of 248 miles across these
sandridges and immediately afterwards another of 150 miles without water; my camels
although they were anything but first class animals, had just returned to Beltana
from a severe trip, when I took charge of them, yet they behaved nobly carrying immense
loads across these dreadful sandridges with the utmost patience and endurance[.] I
found most of the country traversed between Lat 22°.30' to 28°.00 and Longitude 136°.30'
to 13°.30' to be so dry that I did not attempt to take any horses into it: I met several
lots of Natives who although very much frightened behaved in a friendly manner, I
was not fortunate enough to find any traces of Dr Leichardts Party, but I still believe
that this is the country or that a little to the west of it in which such traces will
be found, the civilized natives do speake of a white a man having died in the country
near the Field River, but at the same time contradict each other so often that only
a very little credence can be placed in their stories, the Field river is about 50
miles west of the Mulligan River
and the Hay about 50 miles west of the Field
both new features not previously mapped. I spoke German to all the natives whom I
met hoping that I might thus gain some clue, but all in vain; I have however some
hopes of taking another trip into this country in a short time should I be able to
persuade the run-holders to have their country examined. I may therefore still obtain
some useful information. I shall forward you a copy of all my work both Journal and
Plan as soon as it is completed and shall be extremely obliged to you if you would
forward them either to the Royal Geographical or any other Society you may choose.
Wishing you a happy New Year
3
In 1862, while leading one of the Burke and Wills relief expeditions, John McKinlay
for a time followed a 'magnificent stream' in western Qld that he named Mueller's
Creek. This later proved to be a stretch of the same river that in 1866 named Diamantina
by William Landsborough in honour of Lady Diamantina Bowen, wife of Sir George Bowen.
Governor of Queensland; and Landsborough's name prevailed despite the priority of
McKinlay's naming. See M to A. Petermann, 24 October 1876.
4
SA.
5
Qld.
6
Field and Hay Rivers both NT, draining into the Simpson Desert.
I shall remain
Yours sincerely
Chas Winnecke
P.S. Few of the plants in my collection are a species of the sensative plant and one
(on insects) appears to be carnivorous: should you prefer it I shall be delighted
if you answer my letter in German in which I have had very little practice of late
years
7
Marginal note added by M: 'Dass von diesem muthigen Deutschen keine Spur Leichhardts
entdeckt wurde ist selbst als negatives Resultat nicht unwichtig, da sich das Areal
innerhalb welchem er verunglückte nun für Forschung immer mehr einengt! Was Hume u
Skuthorp als gesehen vorgaben, sind wahrscheinlich gehörte Traditionen der Eingebornen,
welche solche später auszubeuten wünschen durch wirklich Autopsie. F.v.M.' [That no
trace of Leichhardt was discovered by this courageous German is itself as a negative
result not unimportant, because the area within which he perished is now more and
more narrowed down for exploration. What Hume and Skuthorpe allege as seen are probably
hearsay traditions of the Aborigines, who later wished to exploit such by real autopsy].
M's note was published with the letter, but with some variations in the wording.
Winnecke's report and M's comments were summarized in London standard, 19 April 1884, p. 5, and this report was reprinted in Sydney morning herald, 6 June 1884, pp. 7-8.