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Ferdinand von Mueller to Edward Ramsay, 1874-09-09. R.W. Home, Thomas A. Darragh, A.M. Lucas, Sara Maroske, D.M. Sinkora, J.H. Voigt and Monika Wells (eds), Correspondence of Ferdinand von Mueller, <https://vmcp.rbg.vic.gov.au/id/74-09-09>, accessed September 11, 2025
9/9/74.
Last night, dear Mr Ramsay, I got your two letters of the 3th & 4th,
and feel
delighted
at the prospect of your getting off a collector.
I will of course pay towards the expense, and feel sure you will get fully reimbursed
for your own part by what he brings. You should however telegraph to Capt Nares,
and solicit, that at least
one alpine
excursion under protection of the naval force should be arranged! It would likely
be only a pick nick on a large scale.
1
Letters not found.
2
See M to E. Ramsay, 1 September 1874.
3
Captain of the oceanographic expedition vessel, HMS
Challenger
.
Even if you got a small steamer of your own, you could not with
safely
venture into the mountainous high regions, for it would require a strong party both
on land and on the vessel.
I found out, when Mr Hills palm fruits arrived, that his supposed Cocos! is an
Areca
, near the common Indian Betel nut (A. Catechu), and his supposed Areca is a true Kentia. It is singular, that he should venture to
send descriptions almost of no diagnostic value and on such ill digested data, as
he obtained, into an official report.
To protect him to some extent, I have placed his name along with mine as authority
of the Normanby palm,
so that his dedication may not be destroyed; and that is more than likely any one
else would have done for him! Pray do
not
mention this to any one, until you get the new number of the Fragmenta, which is printed, but not yet issued. For
when I showed Mr Hill that his supposed Stenocarpus was an Oreocallis, he at once seized publicly on the information without any acknowledgement whatsoever!
And he may do so in this instance again. But — please — keep this letter, because
the
next
post may bring him letters from Dr Hooker, correcting his errors concerning these
palms, and then it is well, that you could show what my independent opinion on the
subject had been, though I saw only fruits (no male flowers) of this palm.
4
W. Hill (1874), p. 6.
5
Hill's
Cocos normanbyi
was transferred to
Areca normanbyi
, attrributed to 'Hill et Mueller' as authors, in B74.09.02, p. 235. On the same page
M transferred Hill's
Areca minor
to
Kentia minor, without joint authorship.
6
Hill described
Oreocallis wickhami
in W. Hill (1874), p. 6.
Your Pterostylis is what I with Mr Bentham have regarded as a var.
magniflora
of P. curta. Dr Woolls sent this particular variety from Paramatta. I found it myself
in 1855 on the Brisbane River and Leichhardt found it also somewhere in N. S. Wales.
Whether on the fresh plant specific differences can be pointed out in comparison with
P. curta you or Mr Fitzgerald have ample means of ascertaining. The flowers are much like those
of P. Banksii from N. Z., but not the leaves.
As Mr Fitzgerald is a monographer of the N. S W. orchids it will be best to place
all
material from
within
N. S Wales boundaries at
his
disposal
7
Robert Fitzgerald was had been preparing and exhibiting drawings of Australian orchids
since at least the 1871 Colonial Exhibition (Empire
(Sydney), 22 August 1871, p. 3, erroneously named as 'A. D. Fitzgerald'); vol. 1,
part 1 of Fitzgerald (1875-1894) is dated July 1875 (see review,
Sydney morning herald, 21 July 1875, p. 3).
A fruit specimen of Corysanthes would be interesting. But really what is all that
in comparison to New Guinea new plants, including doubtless masses of
terrestrial
orchids just now in flower of
Australian
type.
I wished I could go myself. Have you any precise date, when the Challenger will be
at Cape York & how long she will continue her researches at New Guinea?
You speak about an enclosed parasitic plant; it is however not in your letter; if
it is the "horsehair" plant or as some call it the "negro-hair" then I have never
seen its fructifications.
Let me hope that as you belong to a younger generation than myself, that you will
soon be restored to health.
Regardfully yr
Ferd. von Mueller
I could not think of communicating with the Journal, which you mention after its outrageous
behavior towards me, unless it reversed its tactics completely concerning me.
Your best plan is to communicate any such information yourself to any of the two Sydney
weekly papers, both of which are very friendly to me. Can not Capt Goodenough
be induced to send ye[t] again a ship for a short time for mountain ascents to N Guinea
I
would go in her then if allowed! and you could be my companion or anyone you choose.
8
Journal not identified.
9
James Goodenough.
Areca Catechu
Cocos
Corysanthes
Kentia
Oreocallis
Pterostylis Banksii
Pterostylis curta
var
magniflora
Stenocarpus